Thursday, June 21, 2012

Goofer Dust B.S.

People really need to stop using goofer dust. I'm so sick of hearing about people using goofer dust at the drop of a hat. Goofer dust is not to be taken lightly. It's a serious matter and is used only in severe situations when the person merits death. Got that? We don't goofer somebody because they called us fat. We don't goofer somebody for looking at us wrong. We don't goofer somebody for gossipping about us. This shit needs to stop.

I don't care who the hell tells you to use goofer dust. I've had people tell me that really big names in the "Internet Hoodoo" community are telling people to use it for these trivial situations. For one, I can't say they are telling the truth. For all I know they are just reading their websites and then claiming that the person told them to use it. I don't know the back story. All I know is that if anyone tells you to use goofer dust in a situation where it is not called for then it's unjustified. You should know the consequences of what could happen to you if that work gets taken off and reversed back on you. When you use goofer dust you are calling for that person's death. You better make sure they deserve it or else it may be flung back in your face.

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  1. I agree completely. Luckily most internet hoodoos that recommend goofer dust at the drop of a hat are only selling colored talc.

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    1. Thanks for the confirmation. Emotions can cause foolish actions. I have a question no one can answer; several years ago when i lived somewhere else i used to find wet cigarette butts on my door mat everyday for about a week. What is that about??

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  2. Well, some of them do wip up their own versions of it. But I think the problem is that people are reading about it online and they are not understanding that this is not something you do at the drop of a hat or for trivial things. I think the problem is also that these sites people are getting information from are not distinguishing between being a worker and being a witch. They are not the same thing.

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  3. I honestly think a lot of people understand, too, but just don't care. When I've talked to people out there and answered questions, at the first mention of prayer or Psalms so many people took pause. One individual who actually came to me for help wanted to debate the supposed non-existence of justice in the world. I think the scary truth is that a lot of people want to turn to conjure or folk magic of any kind because they believe it's, not only a way around "fate", but a way around God. They want power in their hands and they believe conjure work is the way to do it (with it being anything they damn well please).

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    1. It's because they view it as witchcraft. Most of the public thinsk this stuff is "voodoo" or "witcchraft" but most of the alleged workers online also think it's witcchraft. I really think me and Papa Ce are the ONLY people online trying to teach people the difference.

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    2. @ DocConjure

      I know a lot of folks online and off have given up trying to explain the differences to their customers because they lose business to the fake-hoodoos that claim to cast spells. I wrote a post about cutting soul-ties on my shop blog and got at least three emails from people asking how to do it without deliverance work or as one put it "all the Jesus stuff." The fake hoodoos are making a killing off of these people.

      Witches or pretenders, they don't have scruples and they benefit directly from misinforming people. Unfortunately the non-witches that call themselves witches confuse the matter even more by generally being pretty upstanding folks that just don't know any better word for what they do.

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    3. @ Wendy,

      It's that trend to make monsters be good, productive citizens. It started in the 1950s for witches. Now the trend is to make vampires and even werewolves be "good". People who use the label of 'witch' do so because they believe it empowers them. A lot of them are caught up in this psuedohistory proposed by Wiccans and other self-styled witches. You don't need to call yourself a witch to feel empowered. Real old-school workers would never use that label to describe themselves.

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    4. @DocConjure,

      I'd hardly describe myself as an old school worker but personally speaking getting called a witch is enough to get my hackles up.

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    5. My grandmother was mountain folk. She was a worker & back in the day they didn't call it/her anything really....they just "were" who they were & everyone knew where to go & who to see. Those who can work & have the knowledge just did & that was that...

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  4. I used to think it would be a good thing for more of this stuff to be out and open in the public-- now I'm really starting to understand why the older generations kept a lot of it quiet. People that don't know how things work typically head straight for the proverbial "overkill" section-- like they aren't sure that it's enough to burn a dressed candle over their lover, they want make sure it works so they intend to send a damned soul from hell after him. It's like getting a pimple and having the doctor prescribe chemotherapy to get rid of it.

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    1. I think you can find a balance with it, not giving away everything so idiots don't go around hurting people and themselves.

      However, the main problem with this is that people are reading this on websites and the authors are not teaching people the difference between witches and workers, possibly because they themselves don't know or they are witches pretending to be workers. A lot of witches will do those sort of tricks.

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    2. merry meet, i know this is old history for you, but as i was doing some research, i came across this conversation... i dont understand why u feel insulted by being called a witch... we are not all foul, hateful harmful hags... myself for one, i am a healer, helper and love life in all forms from plants to animal to insect, etc... ALL LIFE is a gift... and funny as it may seem to u, i do believe in God, Jesus and the heavenly hereafter... a real honest and sincere witch follows the wiccan rede which does state "may ye harm none" so any1 who harms, is in my opinion, not a witch... i do however agree, that there are times when we find it necessary to either protect ourselves or defend ourselves from negative outside influences and in those cases, i have been extremely diligent in researching other means besides death for the offending party... i do not take goofer dust lightly at all and my current circumstances do have me investigating those "other means"... please do not judge all witches based on a few bad experiences for we are NOT all charlatans out to make a buck off people who dont know the ins and outs... thank u for allowing me to show u my side... please feel free to contact me if u would like to reply silvermoon12771@yahoo.com thanks again and blessed be

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    3. "Silvermoon", you are not a witch in my book. You think that witch = person who does magic. That's not what witch means. Your religion was invented (made up) circa 1950. It is not "the old religion". What you do is no where near anything what the ancient pagans did. The original definition of witch is of an evil doer. The fact that people want to call themselves witches today represents a trend that is widespread, that of people claiming to be monsters. So we have people who claim to be witches, people who claim to be vampires, people who claim to be werewolves, and even people who claim to be unicorns and fairies. The biggest clue to indicate that your religion is completely made up and modern is that you have no true magical craft. The emphasis in Wicca is religion, not magic. So when it comes to magic you steal things from other real, valid magical traditions. For example, dressing colored candles with oils and burning incense does not come from your tradition. It's something you stole. Most Wiccans in the U.S. have resorted to stealing stuff from the practice of hoodoo/rootwork/conjure to prop up their "religion".

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    4. i guess i just accepted the label of witch because so many people easily identify with that name.. i follow the path of my great grandmother who was an herbal healer and the use of candles, insence, etc, was how she worked... she passed on a love and knowledge of plants, herbs, recipes, etc... dont get me wrong, although i do not like to harm any, we all know there comes a time when protection and defense are not enough... and i am not adverse to investigating other means... in modern times i have been labeled "kitchen witch" and for lack of any other term or name, i guess i just accepted it instead of rejecting it as so many people identified withe that name easily... thank you for your response and i am now kind of curious as to what you would label me as... if not a witch, then what???

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  5. Very true. Several years ago I had a mini online debate with a "traditional" worker who swore up and down that both I.S., Anima Sola, and some other were okay, no evil involved, super traditional, and fine in conjure work. The claim being that everything is fair game because 3 folds law doesn't apply, and people just ate it up.

    People get so caught up in more is better, and any general sensationalism around some specific method of working. It's because people are seeing various "spell lists" and elaborate set ups without first understanding what conjure is. Naturally, especially here in America, we believe 50 candles will do you better than one candle and fervent prayer. If it doesn't work, then you must need something stronger. Beyond the answer simply being "no", there are also the issues of what type of energy the person is sending out there, what is actually required to fix the problem, etc. Matters aren't always so one size fits all that grabbing a post off the net or special one size fits all oil will be a cure all. So, they don't get their results and decide to pull out the big guns.

    I think the other reason some stuff is and should be kept secret is because second sight is a huge part of conjure. If you're working blind then, well... lots of unnecessary (and potentially bad) steps will be taken along the way.

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    1. LOL... so funny when people who claime to be traditional or "old school" yet who talk as if spirits like the Intranquil Spirit, Anima Sola, Santa Muerte, San Simon, the 7 African Powers, or even the Orishas or Loas as if they are a part of traditional conjure work. They are not and never will be.

      A big way to tell the pretenders is that all of their information comes from the Lucky Mojo website. I'm not slamming it, just saying that's how it is. They read Lucy Mojo website and they think they are experts now. Many of them are even too lazy to look up the Hyatt material. Those that do try to make Hyatt out to be the bible of hoodoo, which it ain't and never will be. LOL

      As far as the second sight, you have to have the calling to do the work professionally. If you want to be witch, then that's different. You just got to have a nasty spirit and ego to match.

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    2. My cousin and I started calling this mix Mexidoo because it's not brujeria, it's not voodoo, and it's not hoodoo. It's taco-bell witchcraft. It's cheap, insulting and manages to degrade three distinct cultures and traditions in one fell swoop. It also dances on that border of being deeply racist.

      I visited an eBay seller's guide yesterday and found a love-binding voodoo doll Santa Muerte "spell." I could not make this stuff up if I tried.

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    3. It's like picking up the practice of celebrating Hanukkah and trying to convince everyone (even Jews) that you have these super traditional practices.

      Part of the problem, IMHO, is that people are mixing up city hoodoo with country conjure, and the two are not the same. When people start talking about "traditions" in hoodoo, they don't differentiate between what's done in the country and what's purchased in the city. Nor, what's done by conjurers and what's done by believers. NOT the same things lol.

      Currently, my personal favorite is getting rid of bad spirits by washing your whole house top to bottom. So much of this advice is product or service driven, and totally leaving the actual work out of it. And it makes it so clear who hasn't actually dealt with those situations also. And yet, they're trying to advise people! Because Jesus like "OMG! Pass me the Chinese Wash! BRB... Gotta go wash your house." *smh*

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    4. @ Wendy,

      "Mexidoo", lol. I love the "Taco Bell Witchcraft" comment as well. Another person left a comment on my blog in the past and used the term "homogenized hoodoo". I like that as well.

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    5. @ ForeverRed,

      You hit the nail on the head with that comment. Ever notice how the advice of so many online workers includes the purchase and use of their products! LOL

      People today are all confused because the marketers are now presenting themselves as if they are EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN. In the past it wasn't like that. Today marketers also claim to be experts, teachers, and professional workers! Now the doors are open to the workshop and confereances and it's just going to get even worse with time as the marketers begin competing with each other for attention and $$$.

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    6. It's exactly like that in "psychic circles" where everyone is an expert in everything so as to draw in suckers & take their money. How many reiki master degrees are there today? 140,000? And how many masters can be channeled exactly? Makes my head spin & my stomach turn. And all for the almighty dollar. I'll be glad when these so-called "gifted" get their day jobs back...

      (I know this thread is a year old, but thought I'd reply anyhow. I thoroughly enjoy this blog & am happy to see the like-minded still out here somewhere. Thank you for allowing me to comment! :)

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    7. @ Sleeping Gypsy,

      I don't know what you are but you aren't a witch. Practicing folk magic does not a witch make. I don't want to get into this any further.

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  6. WELL IAM FROM PUERTO RICO AND I LEARNED VOODOO WITH AN HAITIAN GUY IN THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC. THIS GUY IS A HOUGAN AND SOMETIMES HE WORKS AS A BOKOR AND I LEARNED A LOT. I ALREADY CONTACTED A LOA VIA PAPA LEHGBA AND LET ME TELL YOU, GETTING A LOA INTO YOUR BODY IS NO EASY. IAM GOING TO HAITI THIS 22ND OF AUGUST BECAUSE I WANT TO MADE JUSTICE WITH A PERSON THAT TRIED TO DO HARM TO ME AND MY FAMILY. WE ARE GOING TO HAITI TO VISIT A CEMENTERY AND THERE WE ARE GOING TO CALL EL VARON DEL CEMENTERIO SAN ELIAS. I WANT TO TAKE A BIG REVENGED WITH THIS ENEMY. IAM SORRY FOR MY WRITTEN ENGLISH. I TOLD MY HAITIAN FRIEND ABOUT ALL THIS STUFF THEY SELL AND HE TOLD ME THE BEST AND QUICK WAY TO WORK IS BY CALLING YOUR LOAS. FIRST YOU HAVE TO CONTACTED PAPA LEGHBA.

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  7. agreeing with the comments here about the b.s. and all. i work a little. sitting here with a few odds and ends, all the real deal. folks who read this on the net should not take it lightly. goofer dust? sitting here in a vial in a box. stout stuff. mississippi all the way, from my background to whatever. still just a regular old guy, but one who has been doing something along these lines for... lessee...45 years or so, and exposed to it off and on since i was small. ya'll take care out there, and don't worry about the idiots and snake-oil folks. they just 'flicted. :)

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